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@_discord_384835192893734917:chatbrainz.org
Or it's probably just on my end 
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@irc_lemuria:chatbrainz.org
@irc_lemuria:chatbrainz.org
is mb slow yet again 
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state_event = OtherState { state_key: "@_discord_1354485205796389087:chatbrainz.org", content: RoomMember(RoomMemberEventContent { avatar_url: Some("mxc://chatbrainz.org/gCWDBduiheAszyhHuPqLqCON"), displayname: Some("victinivictini"), is_direct: None, membership: "join", third_party_invite: None, blurhash: None, reason: None, join_authorized_via_users_server: None }) }
state_event = OtherState { state_key: "@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org", content: RoomMember(RoomMemberEventContent { avatar_url: Some("mxc://chatbrainz.org/WnLGJSUQEloltZfgwEOfnpVd"), displayname: Some("volumetrique#0"), is_direct: None, membership: "join", third_party_invite: None, blurhash: None, reason: None, join_authorized_via_users_server: None }) }
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state_event = OtherState { state_key: "@_discord_212007335860633600:chatbrainz.org", content: RoomMember(RoomMemberEventContent { avatar_url: Some("mxc://chatbrainz.org/hKASIeWfcXKgEzNPehrqraAD"), displayname: Some("devianteng"), is_direct: None, membership: "join", third_party_invite: None, blurhash: None, reason: None, join_authorized_via_users_server: None }) }
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@leftmostcat:matrix.org
@leftmostcat:matrix.org
TheTVDB has decided that, instead of providing good editing tools, they're going to require that all shows added have identifiers from minimum two of IMDb, TheMovieDB, and EIDR. Or a press release. Let me tell you how little that makes me want to add things to the site, when a bunch of the things I'd add are minor documentaries with no entries on any other site.
@leftmostcat:matrix.org
@leftmostcat:matrix.org
Guess how many other sites have metadata for a show from an Irish-language television station about birdwatching.
@leftmostcat:matrix.org
@leftmostcat:matrix.org
Thank you, MB, for being metadata I can properly edit.
@aerozol:matrix.org
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@_discord_1073873931611680859:chatbrainz.org
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Maybe one day https://community.metabrainz.org/t/filmbrainz-ideas-thread-i-e-moviebrainz-videobrainz-etc/707370 will become a reality and give us a proper video database site!
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
movies and tv series on metabrainz would be awesome.
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
I've become disillusioned with thetvdb personally, but it's a very specific issue that isn't related to the mention above
@kellnerd:matrix.org
@kellnerd:matrix.org
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@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
Someone mirror MB and rename every instance of "music" to "video"
@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
Job done
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
lol 
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@irc_DjSlash:chatbrainz.org
@irc_DjSlash:chatbrainz.org
autojoin 
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@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicBrainz/comments/1meu0op/little_game_using_the_database/
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@blastboomstrice:4d2.org
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state_event = OtherState { state_key: "@_discord_474719954357452812:chatbrainz.org", content: RoomMember(RoomMemberEventContent { avatar_url: Some("mxc://chatbrainz.org/HwydlePgabGJlnCLiZNVhGvt"), displayname: Some("meeklekinz"), is_direct: None, membership: "join", third_party_invite: None, blurhash: None, reason: None, join_authorized_via_users_server: None }) }
state_event = OtherState { state_key: "@_discord_591094910124425246:chatbrainz.org", content: RoomMember(RoomMemberEventContent { avatar_url: Some(""), displayname: Some("phyre2k"), is_direct: None, membership: "join", third_party_invite: None, blurhash: None, reason: None, join_authorized_via_users_server: None }) }
@eg:envs.net
@eg:envs.net
I play this via ListenBrainz Similar Artists
@_discord_251035399244349450:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_251035399244349450:chatbrainz.org
This is only based on the “similar artists” which is generated by user listens. And not on actual musicbrainz data of band members…
@_discord_620492146406981642:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_620492146406981642:chatbrainz.org
Aerozol the game site is broke 😔
@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
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@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
Damn! You might want to report on the reddit thread (it's not my site)
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicBrainz/comments/1meu0op/little_game_using_the_database/

I couldn't get it to work...
Although I had an idea to make an automated way to find the relationship between any 2 entities, although I never managed to finish it. Probably should go back to it now that I got an entity crawler in alistral 
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@irc_Teddy333:chatbrainz.org
@irc_Teddy333:chatbrainz.org
knock knock knock
@applecuckoo:nitro.chat
@applecuckoo:nitro.chat
hello
@irc_Teddy333:chatbrainz.org
@irc_Teddy333:chatbrainz.org
hello!
@irc_Teddy333:chatbrainz.org
@irc_Teddy333:chatbrainz.org
i'm new to this world...
@blastboomstrice:4d2.org
@blastboomstrice:4d2.org
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state_event = OtherState { state_key: "@_discord_203613983247171594:chatbrainz.org", content: RoomMember(RoomMemberEventContent { avatar_url: Some("mxc://chatbrainz.org/HkzozlqSoGuXJesgSnqoKnlZ"), displayname: Some("duddy7464#0"), is_direct: None, membership: "join", third_party_invite: None, blurhash: None, reason: None, join_authorized_via_users_server: None }) }
state_event = OtherState { state_key: "@_discord_203613983247171594:chatbrainz.org", content: RoomMember(RoomMemberEventContent { avatar_url: Some("mxc://chatbrainz.org/HkzozlqSoGuXJesgSnqoKnlZ"), displayname: Some("duddy7464"), is_direct: None, membership: "join", third_party_invite: None, blurhash: None, reason: None, join_authorized_via_users_server: None }) }
@_discord_203613983247171594:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_203613983247171594:chatbrainz.org
Hi ! I have spent the last day cleaning up my library, and something came to my mind:
Has anyone ever worked with CLAP models to perform text-to-song matching and ranking? This is very similar to what immich does with clip models, to encode images and retrieve them based on arbitrary text.
I feel like this would be a very easy way to have basically infinite playlists based on arbitrary mood or topic, and the encoding is only done once per song 
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@_discord_242800896772276224:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_242800896772276224:chatbrainz.org
This artist has 7 recordings, yet has 4 artist ids on Tidal.
That kind of ratio is a craaaaazy
https://musicbrainz.org/artist/c3eb31ec-b313-4006-83dd-7ccc3e67d0dc
@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
I've noticed Tidal seems to create duplicate artists more than other platforms
@_discord_242800896772276224:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_242800896772276224:chatbrainz.org
And yet an artist I know still had music from another artist that generated ai slop added to their tidal artist profile :hd_skull:
@_discord_242800896772276224:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_242800896772276224:chatbrainz.org
And yet an artist I know still had music from another artist that generated ai slop added to their tidal artist page :hd_skull: (edited)
@blastboomstrice:4d2.org
@blastboomstrice:4d2.org
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@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
Man, I woke up decided to do some edit voting.

Well, I haven't done voting in a while, and I'm greeted with >700 edits to vote for......

I've done 5 pages already and still showing [500]... please let me end 😭 😭 😭
@_discord_202859540343947265:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202859540343947265:chatbrainz.org
my bad gang
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
Thankfully half of them is just afrocat_ doing the gods work
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
of merging
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
well, speaking of the devil 😈
@_discord_202859540343947265:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202859540343947265:chatbrainz.org
voting at all is doing god's work tbh
@_discord_202859540343947265:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202859540343947265:chatbrainz.org
we need more people voting
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
true.
There's one editor who I know from another discord that I'm having some issues with, not respecting some style guidelines, so I have to be quite careful on what I vote on though...
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
I think I've made it through though, now it's just Afro's merges
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@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
🙏
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_202442004267794432:chatbrainz.org
https://musicbrainz.org/edit/130337519

Can VA be renamed in this way?
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
Can anyone log in criticbrainz on firefox mobile? Site looks broken
@mayhem:chatbrainz.org
@mayhem:chatbrainz.org
looks ok to me. can you post a screenshot?
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
Screenshot_20250804-145851.png
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
Also it seems it finally logged me in but before it asked my password in an alert instead of doing the oauth on mb
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
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@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
Also, on kiwi browser it loaded the css, but can't press the menu button
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
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@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
Innovative rating input also. Really seems like some CSS don't go through
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
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@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
... And apparently I hit a daily limit? With only 4!?
I did way more in the past. And I 'm not even finished with my album review....
@irc_crism:chatbrainz.org
@irc_crism:chatbrainz.org
Any Tull fans here? https://beta.musicbrainz.org/release/38dd5b7e-a25f-462f-8065-ecf6e7717f26 is allegedly a worldwide digital release, but the creatingg edit references a page selling a double LP. While I’m familiar with the recordings here, I don’t know anything about this particular release. 
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@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
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@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
Looks like mine
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@aerozol:matrix.org
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@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/CB-467?jql=project%20%3D%20CB%20AND%20text%20~%20login
@irc_BrainzBot:chatbrainz.org
@irc_BrainzBot:chatbrainz.org
CB-467: Can't log in to CritiqueBrainz
@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
MB Beta login has been broken for a long time, now it's prod too
@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
Crism: I think that release needs to be changed to a LP, I don't see it on any streaming services, and no mention of the LP coming with a download code (but your search results may be better) 
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state_event = OtherState { state_key: "@wsuser:matrix.org", content: RoomMember(RoomMemberEventContent { avatar_url: Some("mxc://matrix.org/XApqFWztyoeYtnYoWcSlEIko"), displayname: Some("privbydesign"), is_direct: None, membership: "join", third_party_invite: None, blurhash: None, reason: None, join_authorized_via_users_server: None }) }
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
It's not using beta. Even stable is broken
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Updating beta
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Has anyone ever actually checked whether the discogs importer breaking classical music and anything else that uses headers like https://www.discogs.com/release/14179480 is just bad coding that can be fixed or it's a mess on the Discogs code it uses?
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Because I'm getting tired of fixing bad imports by newbies :(
@tofu_:matrix.org
@tofu_:matrix.org
I'm not involved in this project really but I can say as a dev of 15 years that if you have consistent "newbie" code issues what you really have is a process issue (PR reviews, etc)
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Not code issues :)
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Newbie data adders using an old importer (which has some annoying issues) and ignoring the issues entirely and adding borked data
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
The importer is not part of our code, it's an external userscript
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
But I should probably see if I can improve it and stop dealing with the mess, just checking whether someone had already looked at it and figured out it's a lot harder than it seems :)
@tofu_:matrix.org
@tofu_:matrix.org
Gotcha, it's always more complicated than I would expect :)
@tofu_:matrix.org
@tofu_:matrix.org
(Not this project specifically, just in general)
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
monkey, zas, yvanzo: any idea how to get (I assume French) users to stop picking https://musicbrainz.org/instrument/72ef1be2-d348-4d95-ad39-ff00a4636bd6/recordings when they want viola?
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
I suspect a large majority of those are viola recordings
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
Hi reosarevok: I didn’t even know this instrument existed. I would suggest to use the more common/less ambiguous name “vertical viola” instead and to mention its inventor Carleen Hutchins in disambiguation comment.
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
ApeKattQuest (IRC): ^ should we maybe rename it?
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
reosarevok: yvanzo[m]: hmm the only issue with that is that it kinda breaks https://musicbrainz.org/instrument/07bffa5f-17a9-4945-bff4-d716af5b6d4e
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
then again,I guess the relationships to that can have credits...
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
my ocd hates the idea but if this means we make it *much*easier to prevent peopel creating a mess...
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
Why would that break anything?
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
wait. but "vertical *viola* as a nother problem : peopel will instead use it for Viola eg english alto credits
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
oohhh i'm starting to remember why i named it like this now
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
“Vertical viola” is also the main name used in Wikidata/Wikipedia.
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
I mean break as in "it's not called in a similar pattern to the others"
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
see "my ocd"
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
comment above
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
That is just an OCD issue then, not a real one.
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
By the way, the link on “alto violin” in the annotation is wrongly pointing to another instrument.
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
curb your enthusiasm, I said"but if it fixes.."
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
I mean the annotation for https://musicbrainz.org/instrument/07bffa5f-17a9-4945-bff4-d716af5b6d4e
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
anyway I'm not sure it actually doesnt recreate another problem. reosarevok qhat do you think?
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
You can mention both names in the annotation, so that your OCD is satisfied too.
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
that's.... what I said :)
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
You didn’t mention the annotation.
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
the annotation is fixed
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
The links in the annotation can be set with the description you prefer.
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
yea the annotations aren't that important. noone looks at those but me :D
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
no I meant the links in relaionships, "instrument credit"
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
they cna be changed. so that "fixes my ocd" (makes things look tidy) fits with what the creator of the violin octet thought out, eg
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
ApeKattQuest (IRC): I think it's more likely that viola will still be available ahead of vertical viola
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
the issue. is that I'm not sure that the word "Vertical viola" is good
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
if it was Vertical *violin*
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
I'm sure some people will still pick the wrong thing (some probably pick violin family when they mean violin or whatever) but still :)
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
hmm....
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
shall we ask the community? wich name they find less confusing? (if they find vertical viola confusing at all, maybe it's a non isuue)
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
Sorry, I mistyped viola earlier, it is “Vertical violin” indeed
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
No, it's actually vertical viola in most sources I see? :)
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
not accoring to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_viola ?but
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Honestly, we could just change it and see how people use it. We could even name it "vertical viola / alto violin" although I know you dislike slashy names
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
Oh right, I’m getting too confused now, thank you.
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
yea. ecxactly. lol
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
I mean. fuckit we can jsut name it verticla violin
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
Just use the one from WP/WD, it is probably the most reliable, and it is less ambiguous.
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Yeah, agreed that in principle "use what wikipedia has" might be the least confusing :)
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
lol hungarian has vertikális brácsa
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
so "vertical (name for viola) just to make it *really* annoyingly difficult lol
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
ok. I'm convinced. create a ticket please (currently working on something else, so i don't forget)
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
@irc_ApeKattQuest:chatbrainz.org
we can also link that i na community post and say we're changing it (because you know how people react when we rename instruments)
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
@yvanzo:chatbrainz.org
This instrument is linked to 500+ recordings. It might be worth tracking this change through an INST ticket for follow-up. 
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@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
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@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
I don't if that's related but I could never undestood the instrument autocomplete algorithm, e.g. typing clairne still only shows clarinet only as the second option
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
I don't if that's related but I could never undestood the instrument autocomplete algorithm, e.g. typing clarine still only shows clarinet only as the second option (edited)
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
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@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
Anoher example:
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
I don't know if that's related but I could never undestood the instrument autocomplete algorithm, e.g. typing clarine still only shows clarinet only as the second option (edited)
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
I don't know if that's related but I could never understand the instrument autocomplete algorithm, e.g. typing clarine still only shows clarinet only as the second option (edited)
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
I don't know if that's related but I could never understand the instrument autocomplete algorithm, e.g. typing clarine still shows clarinet only as the second option (edited) 
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@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
dvirtz: that's not ideal, but I'm guessing it's due to the "synthtar" alias on keytar. since it weights all aliases equal to the entity name, and also prefers matches closer in length
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
Can I bug y'all for a quick opinion on the proper name of this item?
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
https://www.discogs.com/release/27538068-Red-Foley-Chattanoogie-Shoe-Shine-Boy-Essential-Collection
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
I'm thinking Red Foley is actually part of the title here, so maybe "Chattanoogie Shoe Shine Boy - Red Foley - Essential Collection"?
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
Or "Chattanoogie Shoe Shine Boy - Red Foley Essential Collection"?
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
looking at the CD image, I'm not sure I'd agree Red Foley is part of the title, UltraFuzzy
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
just my opinion btw, no experience to back it.
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
What would you suggest?
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
Artist: Red Foley, title "Chattanoogie Shoe Shine Boy - Essential Collection"
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
seems reasonable
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
I do think it's tricky though
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
good luck!
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
ty
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Yeah that's annoying, there's a suprisingly large amount of music for clarinet too!
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
(compared with stuff easier to enter like oboe :p )
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
rustynova, lazybookwyrm: CB should be fixed now, hopefully?
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Apparently our two backends were running two different versions and clashing 🫣
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
aerozol: can you see if CB-467 can be closed now?
@irc_BrainzBot:chatbrainz.org
@irc_BrainzBot:chatbrainz.org
CB-467: Can't log in to CritiqueBrainz https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/CB-467
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
Still blocked on my work WiFi :kek
@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
Thanks reosarevok, I can log in! Still have to change out of beta first, but all good
@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
CB looks normal to me now 🙂
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_492790468321607681:chatbrainz.org
Works fine
@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_382233207875305472:chatbrainz.org
I feel on MusicBrainz I see ":" used more than "-", like "Chattanoogie Shoe Shine Boy: Essential Collection". Idk if that's just a standard I made up in my head though lol.
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
It's not: https://musicbrainz.org/doc/Style/Titles#Subtitles
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
aerozol: don't thank me, hail lucifer
@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
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@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
It's not?
Use a colon (:) to separate any subtitles
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_491523503388884993:chatbrainz.org
Oh, not made up
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Not a standard they made up in their head I meant :D
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
I'm so clear sometimes, sorry
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
@irc_UltraFuzzy:chatbrainz.org
noted
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
@irc_virtualsid:chatbrainz.org
haha reosarevok - I actually followed what you meant, yay for chance? :)
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
stumbled upon pretty important bug in release editor on Firefox (that was just discussed on discord server's #questions-and-help channel), not sure now if it happens just for me
if recording has 3 or more artists, when editing the join phrase for the first one, it simply not editing at all and stays as ", " (e.g. it'll always be "Artist A, Artist B feat. Artist C" instead of "Artist A & Artist B feat. Artist C")
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org: ^ in case you hace a bit of time
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Have even
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
does bridging supports video files?
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
not sure, alternatively you can link to the release you're editing and provide steps to reproduce (I wasn't able to after a quick attempt)
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
https://musicbrainz.org/release/d765e819-595f-4df5-affe-243389f4ea3d
1. open editing interface
2. edit artist credit for track 6
3. try to edit the join phrase for artist "Paul Woolford"
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
hmm, I don't see any issues here (also using Firefox 141)
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
eh, getting this on 141 too
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
have you tried with userscripts disabled too?
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_266276851654197248:chatbrainz.org
yeah, turned one some random artist credit filler script was causing that.. 🤦
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
@bitmap:chatbrainz.org
ah, ok. thank you for not finding a musicbrainz bug 😜 
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@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Always best when we don't need to work!
@blastboomstrice:4d2.org
@blastboomstrice:4d2.org
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@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
Message was redacted.
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@reosarevok:chatbrainz.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
reacted 😂 to message 
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@voyager6502:matrix.org
@voyager6502:matrix.org
https://musicbrainz.org/release/e87a30d8-46ac-46f0-b9f9-92846f35cfbb This is very based and funny
@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
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@aerozol:matrix.org
@aerozol:matrix.org
"Found in 0 user collections" 
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@irc_dicktwister:chatbrainz.org
@irc_dicktwister:chatbrainz.org
wassup people
@irc_dicktwister:chatbrainz.org
@irc_dicktwister:chatbrainz.org
Need Irish Folk Recommendations 
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@deqyra:matrix.org
@deqyra:matrix.org
sup nerds 👋
@deqyra:matrix.org
@deqyra:matrix.org
I'm a newcomer editor and I'm looking to add a vinyl release which is split up in 4 discs, whereas the existing CD release that I'm basing it on only has 2. As a result, I'd like to move half the tracks of each to a newly added medium, but I haven't found a way to do that which doesn't involve manually copying every track onto the new medium. Did I miss something?
@irc_crism:chatbrainz.org
@irc_crism:chatbrainz.org
qreon: Can you point us to the release in question? But yeah, generally, if the media structure is different, the new one can be challenging.
@deqyra:matrix.org
@deqyra:matrix.org
It's not published yet but I can once it is
@deqyra:matrix.org
@deqyra:matrix.org
or did you mean the CD release that I'm basing the new one on?
@deqyra:matrix.org
@deqyra:matrix.org
I think I found a workaround, when I add a new medium I can just base it on that same CD release and remove the tracks that are not on it
@deqyra:matrix.org
@deqyra:matrix.org
Way less tedious lol
@irc_crism:chatbrainz.org
@irc_crism:chatbrainz.org
qreon: Good plan. Yes, I meant the CD release, but it sounds like you got it sorted.
@deqyra:matrix.org
@deqyra:matrix.org
Here it is :+1: https://musicbrainz.org/release/21e4b0fc-713b-4165-95b0-f897d271849a
@deqyra:matrix.org
@deqyra:matrix.org
Here it is 👍️ https://musicbrainz.org/release/21e4b0fc-713b-4165-95b0-f897d271849a (edited)
@deqyra:matrix.org
@deqyra:matrix.org
And the vinyl release should you be interested https://musicbrainz.org/release/13a9f517-c7a5-4b6c-b54d-6f32543bcb24
@522_:catgirl.cloud
@522_:catgirl.cloud
just checking: bandcamp subscriber-only releases (where you have to join and pay per month to get them) are still "purchase for download", right? (but not stream for free, since you can't do that for subscriber only stuff)
@_discord_681477816029675521:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_681477816029675521:chatbrainz.org
we don't really have hard rules regarding this but that seems reasonable, yeah
@_discord_681477816029675521:chatbrainz.org
@_discord_681477816029675521:chatbrainz.org
especially "stream for free" is an incredibly fuzzy relationship in any case (and should be deleted in my opinion)
@522_:catgirl.cloud
@522_:catgirl.cloud

because you're not really meant to be streaming the bandcamp previews for free, ig?

yeah, i can see that